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The Soul and False Conversion

1 Jun

By Pastor Pam


Because the spirit and the soul are not separate but  tightly knitted or braided  around each other as are  the ligaments, marrow and jonts in our legs, it is difficult to discern the difference between the two.  The soul is easiest to recognize because the concerns and needs of “self” are generally apparent.  We recognize the “body” side of the soul because we can see the results through the activity of the natural frame.  We can see selfishness, ambition, competition, and jealousy  because the body,  through material and natural things, will engage in scenarios that expose self striving.   

However, where we fall short is in our ability  to discern the soul from the spirit, which is also “flesh.” I am considering a gospel account of the words of the Lord when a funeral procession went by. He turned to his disciples and said, “let the dead bury the dead.”  How can the dead bury the dead? What Jesus was actually saying is “let the spiritually dead bury the physically dead.” Meaning: those who are alive in both the body and the soul have a dead spirit.  A dead spirit is one that is separated, alienated, and without God in the world.  That is a dead spirit.  It doesn’t mean that there is no awareness or activity in the spirit.

The spirit of the lost is very much alive in the kingdom of darkness, but he or she is alienated from the kingdom of heaven. It makes itself known through various nightmares and irrational fears.  When it is active, man’s dead spirit is open to the hellish dark world of spirits ruled over by the Prince of darkness. When it is both active AND powerful, the spirit is capable of a variety of supernatural feats including but not limited to clairvoyance, clairaudience and astral travel or out of body experiences.

When a lost or alienated person “accepts Jesus” as Lord and Savior, it can’t be the spirit who does so because the spirit  of that person is dead, alienated, and walking according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that works in those who are disobedient by the lust of their flesh.  In such a condition, the soul has to take over.  In the lost, the soul fulfills the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and the lost person has the nature of self consciousness.

So since a dead spirit cannot “accept God,” the soul takes over in its parts: mind, emotions and volition or will and says, “I accept Jesus as Lord and Savior” and begins a religious ritual that imitates intimacy and relationship. The working of the enemy through the mind or ideas of man quenches the work of the Holy Ghost to quicken that person’s spirit.  For the powers of darkness are keenly clever in working alongside of and simulating the born again experience.

When a person is REALLY born again, the soul takes a back seat.  The Holy Ghost “quickens” the spirit through repentance. As defined by Paul to the Ephesians, to quicken means to be made alive.  As Jesus Christ was raised from the dead physically or bodily, to be born again is to be raised from the dead spiritually. In other words, a dead spirit has been raised to becoming a vessel for the Holy Ghost.  Since the spirit does not have a will, volition is a choice or decision made by the soul.  What the spirit has is intuition. Paul revealed that the reason the spirit is raised from the dead is because “God is rich in mercy.” So the resurrection of the spirit begins in the intuition and then translated into  understanding  by the soul.

When the soul “accepts Jesus,” the spirit remains dead but with great acting skills, the soul can religiously  imitate the things of God. The fallen spirit of man, alienated and separated from God is sunk down into the soul so that the soul manifests as intellect or sensuality, often in both. In such cases, the soul reigns over both the spirit and the body. The way that the new life reaches the spirit is shown in the Lord’s own words: You must be born again.  The Holy Ghost “breathes” where ever He chooses. This is not the decision of man but the will of God.

The believer who has been raised from the dead in the spirit to newness of like is born of the Spirit or “born again.” The Holy Ghost, who takes up a dwelling place in the reborn spirit, has given the believer a revelation of the Cross and the Lord’s resurrection. This revelation is first received in the spirit. As James indicates in his letter, the wisdom that is from above—from the Holy Spirit—is pure, peaceable, gentle, merciful—without any element of the life of the soul—opinions, self views, strife-jealousy. So when a person is born again, the spirit imparts  understanding  to the soul through the mind, will and the emotions.

What is happening among those who claim that “they accepted Jesus,” is that they have done so through the soul and therefore, their spirits have remained dead.  The intellect of one whose spirit is dead is decidedly fallible and becomes the most dangerous of the soul’s gifts because God seekers use their minds to understand spiritual truths.  The scriptures reveal that the soulish man cannot receive the things of the Spirit, because they can only be spiritually discerned.

According to the late great Jessie Penn Lewis, “It is the soulish element in teachers and professors of holiness, which is often the cause of separation and disunion.  There may be, it is true, love in the heart to those who ‘differ,’ but the ‘differences’ divide nevertheless, because the demoniacal powers, able to work upon the soulish element in the believer, always emphasize or exaggerate the difference in “views of truth,” instead of magnifying the points of union, and even drive eager believers to ‘fight’ for their view of ‘truth,‘ under the name of ‘witnessing for God.” It is also the soulish element in Christians which insists upon the minute correspondence of others its ‘views of truth,’ and ‘tithe mint and anise and cumin’, in words whilst leaving ‘undone the weightier matters of the law’—which in the gospel dispensation of the Spirit between believers as the condition of their growth into ‘unity of the faith. ‘In brief, the soul-life, influenced by evil supernatural powers, is the main cause of divisions and separation among the professing, and even the true children of God.”

For this reason as pointed out by Sis. Jessie, the churches are filled with nominal worshippers of Christ, who show no marks of a true Christian life within them. In a nutshell, influences that bypass the spirit and only reach the soul may prepare the way by bringing the seeker within the reach of the truth which is read from the scriptures.  Outer strivings may make for a kind  self righteousness that  has a value and place in the world.  However, by virtue of these outer trappings, such seekers  will be fooled into believing that the strivings of the soul is evidence that he or she is born again.  Not so.  Since God views self righteous as filthy rags, the spirits of such seekers is untouched. Dead.  Alienated.  Without God.

Those whose souls imitate salvation are diversified.  Dynamic personalities   sway and move the emotions of others.  Their fruit—like TD Jakes for example—is to move the emotions of the soul.  The problem is that the faith of the hearers stands in the influence or wisdom of people like TD, and not in the power of God.  Intellectuals uses schemes to reach men and bring them to God, some preaching hell and damnation to frighten people to God, others using heaven, prosperity, gospelfests, social fellowship, networking  etc.

The outcome is that people are attracted to the fake Jesus, and not of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. What happens is a dangerous thing, so dangerous, that I will have to address it in more detail Part III. Suffice it to say for now, that people who are deceived into believing that they got born again, STILL have a dead spirit.  When dead, the spirit is susceptible to the evil side of the spirit world where psychic power is mistaken for the gifts of the Holy Ghost. Consequently, unsaved people are speaking in tongues, laying hands on others, imparting demons into vulnerable people.  Also, when people with dead spirits pray to the Father in the name of His Son, the one who answers their prayers is the imposter, the Fake Jesus.

Can a person whose spirit has been quickened STILL allow his or her soul to dominate?  Most decidedly YES. These are those who have a sensual relationship with Jesus.  When they speak of “being in His presence,” they are not satisfied unless they can feel the presence of God continually upon their flesh, and almost bi-polar in the spirit, they experience loads of ups and downs akin to spiritual mood swings.  They need to be taught how to walk by faith and not by sight or feeling.  Although the Holy Spirit dwells in their spirits, they often allow the soul to predominate because they do not understand the spirit life and the actions of the human spirit in co-action with God.

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Spirit and Soul In a Conversion by “Accepting Christ, by Pam Sheppard

16 Nov

What I am noticing in my work as a pastor and deliverance counselor  is that the enemy has noticeably  improved his tactics in mocking a true conversion with a false one, primarily because the soul helps out the religious spirit that is assigned to produce a false conversion.  So we need to be able to discern the difference between the soul and the spirit.

I remember when I got born again. I was sorrowing deep inside myself and my mind really did not know why. All of a sudden, I got a flash that was like a lightbulb turned on in my mind. I knew that I knew that I knew that Jesus was raised from the dead and I had no idea how or why I believed such a preposterous thing. It was preposterous to me because nothing that dies comes back to life, so how could I believe in a human being died and came back to life, since for 3 decades I did not even believe that Jesus existed!!! So faith in His resurrection was just “there.” In me. It was like faith was dropped into my spirit and my mind was activated. That faith on the resurrection has been stuck in me like an immoveable stone. It was seconds after I believed on the resurrection that my spirit was born again.

On the contrary, when the soul “accepts Jesus,” the spirit remains dead. Remarkably, with great subconscious acting skills, the soul can religiously imitate the things of God. The fallen spirit of man, alienated and separated from God is sunk down into the soul so that the soul manifests itself as intellect or sensuality, often in both. In such cases, the soul reigns over both the spirit and the body. The way that the new life reaches the spirit is shown in the Lord’s own words: You must be born again. The Holy Ghost “breathes” where ever He chooses.

Salvation is not the decision of man but the will of God.

If you suspect that you may have had a false conversion when you accepted Christ by repeating a sinner’s prayer, give us a call at 1-888-818-1117 or write us at


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Healing and Rebuking Satan

7 Jan

Matthew. 12:29 “Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man’s house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can plunder his house.

If a person is strong, the enemy can’t spoil his house unless he first renders him helpless by tying him up.

Deliverance ministry has referred to Satan as the strongman, in spite of the clarity of the Lord’s words in Matthew 12:29. The strongman is US, not the enemy. Weare strong until we permit the enemy to tie us up.

When the Lord spoke these words, no one was yet born again. So I perceive it safe to assume that this scripture applies to any strong-willed person. it’s a natural fact. We will all fight for what is ours unless a thief threatens our lives with a deadly weapon. Only under such dire circumstances will we allow ourselves to sit in a chair and passively let an intruder wrap us around with a rope and tightly tie it to completely immobilize us. Even when tied up, our minds will search around the room for something sharp to untie ourselves when we get a chance.

From a spiritual perspective, whenever The Lord used the word “house,” he was symbolically referring to our souls. The enemy is the one who binds our souls with invisible chains and cords.. Since the soul consists of the mind, the emotions, the will power, and the personality, if our souls our bound, then we are certainly rendered helpless.

In order to bind a strong man, Satan will often work on the mind first, and then the body, or vice versa, depending on the strategy he employs to bind. Consider how the enemy works with sickness as an example. Many sicknesses are not real sicknesses, but are actually Satanic works. Sometimes illnesses are manifestly Satanic attacks.

For example, When Peter’s mother- in- law was laid aside with a severe fever, the Lord Jesus went to the house and rebuked the fever (Lk. 4:39). Fever is simply a symptom; it has no personality. You cannot rebuke a symptom; you can only rebuke a Being.

Accordingly, the Lord Jesus did a surprising thing. When He saw Peter’s mother- in- law ill with a fever, He rebuked the fever and it subsided. This clearly indicates that the fever was not ordinary, that it possessed a personality. In other words, it was the work of A demon. At the rebuke of the Lord, Satan retreated.

Another instance is shown in the healing of a child who was deaf and dumb from childhood (Mk. 9:17, 21, 25- 27). When the father of the child brought him to the Lord Jesus, the Lord rebuked the unclean spirit saying, “Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I command thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.” And the child was healed. The sickness had been caused by an evil spirit. At the rebuke of the Lord, the evil spirit came out of the child, and the child regained his speech and hearing.

There are three categories for the sick:

1) the medically or actually sick,
2) those who are sick because of Satan’s attack,
3)those who have been physically diagnosed with a medical condition that may or may not become an actual sickness.

The first kind can be healed naturally, or with the help of medical science or directly by the Holy Spirit. The second kind, since the sickness has a personality, it Needs to be rebuked. The third kind needs to be treated and rebuked.

Many sicknesses are indeed physical ailments, but many are the results of Satanic attacks on the body. However, with the third kind, there may be come confusion. You know you have a physical condition but when you analyze the situation, You know that you have not been careless, Yet you have physical symptoms of the condition.

The interesting thing with the third kind is that you find yourself suddenly incapacitated right at the moment when you have something of God’s work or some spiritual thing to do. This condition cannot be attributed to any natural cause. Furthermore, symptoms occur just at the time when you had some spiritual work to fulfill. Chances are you can see Satan all over this.

The third kind will disappear if you resist it before the Lord, saying, “Lord, I do not accept this sickness, for it comes from the enemy!” Most amazing, you will find that it goes away as suddenly as it came. Neither its coming nor its going can be attributed to any natural cause. It has left under rebuke.

Recently this happened to me. On 1/1/15. I said to myself “hmmmmmm”

Since there are people who are out here that consider themselves my enemy, I won’t give them any substantial info as to the nature of my condition. I won’t help them work their voodoo doll on me! LOL

Consequently , I will not assist them by revealing too much. Suffice it to say that I am feeling very well, spirit, soul and body. So the way the enemy recently came at me was with a old diagnosed physical condition that has remained relatively dormant. The condition is real, as it can be physically seen on an X-ray. yet I have not bothered by it. It remains non- symptomatic.

What immediately came to my mind when the symptom occurred was “I will not be able to do the spiritual work planned out for the upcoming year.”

when I realized what was going on, this strong woman got bold. The strongman in me rose up as I declared, “Devil, I refuse to allow YOU to bind ME. I rebuke you.

The next day, the symptom left.


Grieving the Holy Spirit

9 Feb

The Holy Ghost has been reduced to what charismatics, Pentecostals and word of faithers call “the anointing.”  To most of this crowd, the Holy Ghost is “an it” that causes them to have goosebumps as they fall out slain in the spirit, speak in a language that no one can understand, and “get drunk in the spirit.” However, He is so much more than that.


As a Person and not “a feeling,” the Holy Ghost speaks, teaches, witnesses, guides, comforts, convicts, commands, helps, converts, imparts faith to believe, brings the fear of the Lord and imparts godly sorrow to help a sinner repent. He can be obeyed, lied to, resisted, grieved, quenched, quenched, insulted and blasphemed.  The work of the Holy Spirit on earth is similar to that of the Lord’s earthly ministry. As Jesus lived to lift up and glorify the Father, the Holy Spirit’s work centers on lifting up the Son of God, Jesus Christ of Nazareth.  The Father also glorifies the Son.  The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of Christ and the Spirit of the Father.  All three Persons are One.  As our Teacher of spiritual truths, the Holy Spirit will enlighten your mind with insights into the mind of Christ as He unlocks the spiritual doorways to the secret things of God.

Just as the Holy Ghost drove Jesus into the wilderness to do battle with the devil, He does the same with the elect of God.  The Holy Ghost not only wants you to know the godhead.  He wants you to know your enemy and so He will arrange your wilderness experience, tailor-made to what you need to find out.  He knows that it is crucial that you be not ignorant to demonic deception, for the demons have access to our very souls.

Therefore, it is imperative that we learn how to tell the difference between what is spiritual, what is demonic and what is soulish or carnal.  The Holy Ghost is the Helper and as such, He provides us with self-knowledge as long as we don’t grieve Him. Self knowledge equips us to be able to discern thoughts and feelings that are alien to our character and personality. Demons love to snare their prey with half-truths rather than with complete lies because a half truth can set a more believable trap. You say to yourself, if this is true, then THAT must be true, and then you are trapped.  This is the scheme that is the foundation of all false religions.  There is at least ONE truth about God in all of them, perhaps more.

Nevertheless, 99% of truth is no truth at all.   It is a lie.  The Holy Ghost is 100 percent truth and there are no lies in Him. 99% of truth is a setup from the devil. Since our human struggle with the evil side of the spirit world is a daily event, and since Jesus revealed that the Holy Ghost is 100 percent truth, we need to resist grieving Him.  For Jesus said that the Holy Ghost will reveal truth as to what is to come.  In the times in which we live, we are helpless without the Holy Ghost.

How do we grieve the Holy Ghost? Well, when we actually believe that WE lead people to Jesus Christ, we grieve the Holy Ghost.  All we do is preach and testify, as led by the Holy Ghost to do so.  The Holy Ghost does the rest.  He knows who will be saved from who will be damned.  He is the one who dispatches angels to set up our wilderness experiences that He will use to draw us to the cross.   He is the one who provides faith to believe on the Son of God and His bodily resurrection.  You might call the Holy Ghost “THE MINISTER OF SALVATION.” So He is certainly grieved when we take the credit for our own salvation when we boast “I ACCEPTED Jesus.”  He is more than grieved with this. He is angry.  Perhaps that is why religious demons have been allowed to enter those who have said “Jesus, come into my heart.”

  • When He is grieved, He is also quenched. A fire is quenched when dirt is thrown on it.  The organized church has thrown lots of dirt on the Holy Ghost and perhaps that is why He left Her.
  • The Holy Ghost  is also grieved when He is reduced to a flesh experience.  He is a Spirit.  We must worship God in spirit and in truth and not by a sensation on our flesh.  The Holy Ghost imparts the truth by which we worship God Almighty.
  • The Holy Ghost is grieved when professing Christians bypass the Son of God and seek the Father to be saved.  He is quite grieved with that.
  • The Holy Ghost is grieved by those who do not try the spirits to see if they be of Him.  He will let you be deceived until you do.

Resurrection life—the same power the Holy Ghost used to raise the Lord from the dead—will be evident when you experience revelation, power, and discernment under the guidance and instruction of the Holy Ghost.  Revelation is to receive God’s own personal  knowledge and wisdom about YOUR life.  Power is His supernatural ability applied to YOUR human frailty.  We cannot do without  the resurrection life of the Holy Ghost in times like these.

Minister Kellie Reveals That Depression Is A Demon!

17 Oct

Minister Kellie

My name is Kellie Leclerc, and I was saved by the Lord in the Spring of 1988. I have always desired a relationship with the Lord, even if I didn’t understand what that meant or how to achieve it. It was not until the spring that I was called into new life with Him at age 33.

I was once a captive and through deliverance counseling with Pam, I was set free from a demon of depression. It’s because of this that I began to understand about depression and how demons can work their way into a person’s personality so that they become a part of the person. I am a person who has gone through trauma and became fragmented. I began to  realize that demons filled in the gaps of my personality.  Demons not only gave way to my depression, but to religious and lustful demons as well.  These demonic entities working along with my own free will drove me to behaviors that were contrary to the will of God.

Minister Kellie BEAT Depression

A religious teaching I had learned in organized religion was that God would help me, deliver me and take care of me if I just believed. The question was, what did I believe? This question would nag me for the rest of my stay in the religious organization. A quote from the book The Fake Jesus described my condition, “The primary cause of deception and possession in surrendered believers may be condensed into one word, ‘PASSIVITY’, this is, a cessation of the active exercise of the WILL in control over the spirit, soul or body, as may be the case. It is, practically, a counterfeit of ‘surrender to God’. The believer who surrenders their members or faculties to God, and ceases to use them themselves, thereby falls into passivity which enable evil spirits to deceive, and possess any part of his being which has become passive.”

    I had surrendered myself to thinking that God was going to take care of everything and all I had to do was go to church, tithe, do side ministries for the church and God was going to heal me from all of my depression. The problem with this thinking was, I never pursued the real truth of what I was hearing. I basically thought, “If this is what is being preached by my pastors, and leadership, this is what must be true.” Little did I know that all it was doing was putting me deeper in bondage to these demons.  I lost my home, couldn’t take care of my children, became the most depressed I had ever been in my life and was led into two adulterous relationships. It was only when God called me out and as He slowly undeceived me, I saw the error in the doctrine that was being preached. It is because of this I will be able to help others out of the wilderness of depression, religion and lust.

I am accredited with an Associates, going towards my Bachelor’s in Psychology. I know that for those that are suffering in these areas, I can help you if you are looking for healing.